that’s exactly what vanilla sky was. if you liked memento or fight club you will definitely like this film. wow. it’s… wow.
shoot anyone who ruins the plot for you.

15 Thoughts on “two-hour mind fuck

  1. Oooh, I’m glad it was good. I’m SO looking forward to going to see it…

  2. That’s the one problem I have with this movie. Everyone says that… “Don’t spoil the plot.” It’s odd to me that I can describe the plot of any good movie without ruining the movie, but this one is not the same, because it’s been widely reported that the only true redeeming quality of this movie is the fact that the plot is different. Everything else about it is bland.
    What say ye?

  3. heather on December 17, 2001 at 12:59 said:

    “I can describe the plot of any good movie without ruining the movie”
    really? what about m butterfly or the crying game or sixth sense or fight club or memento?
    how can you possibly describe the plot with any satisfaction without ruining it? anyone could say “sixth sense is about a little kid who can see dead people.” but that doesn’t come close to describing the real movements of the story. and if you were to attempt to get closer to an accurate run-down, you’d invariably give away some plot device which would ruin another’s journey through the film.
    if you haven’t seen the movie how can you possibly have anything to say about it? assumptions. pfft.

  4. Not assumption. Based on the reviews of others that HAVE seen the movie. I didn’t say I thought the movie was weak, I said that people that saw it had reported it to be that way.
    PFFT right back at ya! ;)
    As for describing the plot of any other movie, it can be done without giving away the FUN of watching the movie. I’ve heard that for VS, that’s not possible.
    I’ve heard of The Crying Game prior to watching it, and it didn’t ruin a single thing for me (and the person who described it to me did a good job of doing so without making the movie less-FUN for me).
    Afterall, movies are for FUN. They are here to entertain us. Any movie that relies on, “Oh… go see it. I can’t tell you what it’s about, but see it; it’s good!” must be weak. Now want an example of a good movie? Plot twists? Interesting and quirky characters? Makes you pay attention, holds your attention, and at times can both revolt and endear you?
    “Go.”
    Plot: Story that follows four friends and shows their interaction with drug dealers, cops, shady night life characters, and their meager existence working at a food store.
    Now, based on that, I doubt that the movie will be ruined for ANYONE. And, I safely say that the plot’s not ruined, either. Nowhere do I mention plot twists (Claire falling for Todd, the actors being gay, or Simon causing all the ruckus and getting chased from Las Vegas to California by a bouncer from a titty bar and his father). That part isn’t even needed to make the movie’s plot alluring enough to get people to see the film.

  5. heather on December 17, 2001 at 14:18 said:

    basing your opinon of a movie you haven’t seen on reviews by other people is more weak than vanilla sky, in my humble opinion.
    you want a plot summary?
    girl wants boy.
    boy wants other girl.
    girl kills herself.
    boy can’t get other girl.
    naked nipples.
    voila!

  6. See… that in itself doesn’t even make me want to see the movie. I want to see it even LESS now.
    And… I’ll say this for a SECOND time; my opinion of the MOVIE is not based on anyone else’s review. My DECISION to not see it is. It’s the OTHER PEOPLE that said it was weak. That’s what reviewing a film is all about.

  7. heather on December 17, 2001 at 14:29 said:

    which is why i never listen to reviewers!

  8. reviews of films are only slightly more annoying than trailers. i like to see movies without knowing anything at all about them, and i’ve got to say that i’ve rarely not enjoyed a movie, in some way. on the other hand, sitting through films like meet the parents having seen every last single joke in the entire movie in the trailer/reviews was just painful, and the film should have been hilarious.
    but then… each to their own. :)

  9. I watched “Godzilla” in the theaters. DESPITE what people said. And by golly, they were RIGHT! I saw “Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas” contrary to what people said, and I LOVED IT! They were WRONG!
    Did I just undermine my own argument? Not at all. The point is I take reviews coming from like minded people I know more seriously. If my friend Stevie says to me, “Go and see ‘Pulp Fiction’,” I’ll run and not walk to the theater. Now, if Stevie says, “Don’t watch Godzilla,” I won’t, but if Leonard Maldin or Gene Siskel says that I HAVE to see “The Piano,” their opinion means nothing to me, and I’ll more than likely pass on Harvey playing some weird hillbilly indian fellow. Critics were also abuzz about “Eyes Wide Shut,” another theatrical fiasco.
    The opinions expressed to me that VS stunk came from people I know and whose opinions I respect. I’ll wait until this one is on HBO to find out.
    I do, however, agree with you on trailers. The movie “Dude, Where’s My Car” was not any funnier than the trailer. As a matter of fact, the trailer could have been the movie, for the rest of it was filler, AFAIC. (and, I saw this movie against the better advice of my friend Shacko, much to my displeasure)

  10. the thing with me is i do pretty much enjoy all movies, i just get different stuff from different movies. i honestly can’t remember a movie where i got to the end and thought wow, i wish i’d spent that two hours doing something else.
    i even liked the piano. ;)
    mind you, that theme by that german piano geezer. catchy or what? it was stuck in my head for like 5 years.

  11. heather on December 18, 2001 at 14:28 said:

    hrm. i just saw a movie recently from which i walked out saying “i just wasted two hours of my life”… i can’t for the life of me remember which one it was, though.

  12. Iain: You’re right about that damn tune!
    As for wasting time, there was a movie I saw once that was SOOOO bad that I actually felt ill about wasting time watching it. It was a movie about this HS girl that became a hooker in Hollywood and a cop rescued her from some serial killer and sent her of to Berkeley after adopting her. It was the biggest tub of she-ite I’ve ever seen in my life. I don’t remember the name of it right off, but I remember the Cowboy Guy in Hollywood… and to make matters worse, they made a part 2 to this crappy film!!!

  13. Wasn’t that Angel something or something Angel?
    God, my parents let me watch a lot of crap when we got cable! ;)

  14. i think the worst film i’ve ever seen, considering the cast and everything, was that thing with donald sutherland and jamie lee curtis where an alien intelligence accidentally downloads itself to a ship so turns all the crew into cyborgs to repair the satellite so he can upload himself back to wherever he came from… but lol. i nearly died laughing, it was excellent! i’d watch it again any day. :)

  15. I heard that it sucks so I wasn’t going to see it but since you compared it to my favorite movie (DUH!! FIGHT CLUB!) I’ll have to see it!

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